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Speak Out: Councilman Andrews Opposes Leggett’s Proposed Pay Raises for County Workers

Montgomery County Councilman Phil Andrews says Leggett’s pay raise proposal is 'excessive, unsustainable and irresponsible.’ Do you agree?

Montgomery County Councilman Phil Andrews is calling the pay raise agreement between County Executive Isiah Leggett and the Municipal and County Government Employees Organization (MCGEO) “excessive, unsustainable and irresponsible.”

Andrews, D-Gaithersburg, who is planning to run for county executive, released a statement Friday.

At issue is an agreement for fiscal 2014 and 2015 that includes provisions for 3.5 percent increment increases and 3.25 percent COLAs for most county government employees, according to information provided by a County Council spokesman.

Patrick Lacefield, the county executive’s spokesman, told The Gazette that employees could not receive a step and a longevity increases but some county workers could receive either of those plus a cost of living adjustment.

Andrews said such a raise would cost the county more than $40 million over the next three years and was more than what federal and private-sector workers could expect.

County workers haven't had a raise in years.

Andrews said in his statement that county workers deserved a raise, “but one that is sustainable for taxpayers, that does not create unrealistic expectations and that does not encourage other public employee unions, whose agreements also are funded by county taxpayers, to ask for as much.”

Speak out: Do you agree with Andrews that Leggett’s proposed pay raise is too much? Or do you think Leggett’s proposition is fair? Please post your comments below the story.

Andrews’s full statement:

The agreement between County Executive Isiah Leggett and the County general employees union (MCGEO) for pay increases that total 13.5 percent for most employees over the next two years is excessive, unsustainable and irresponsible. The cost of this labor contract, which could exceed $40 million over three years, is larger than the County can afford, and will likely substantially exceed pay increases that federal employees and private sector employees will see in the near future. (President Obama recently proposed a 1 percent cost-of-living-adjustment for federal employees for next year.)

County employees deserve a pay raise after several difficult years, but one that is sustainable for taxpayers, that does not create unrealistic expectations and that does not encourage other public employee unions, whose agreements also are funded by County taxpayers, to ask for as much.

At a time when the County Executive has asked agency and department heads to prepare for another austere year, his lack of any explanation of how he would pay for these sizeable pay increases is striking. If his earlier indications about the budget are true, the money to pay for these pay increases will directly compete with funding for important services.

County Executive Leggett is repeating the mistakes of the recent past by again agreeing to a labor contract that will, if approved by the County Council, hamstring the County’s fiscal future. In spring 2008, for example, on the cusp of the severe recession, County Executive Leggett agreed to a three-year labor contract with career firefighters that called for similar increases in the first two years to the pay increases just announced, and a 10.5 percent increase for most career firefighters in the third year. The cost-of-living increase in year two of that contract had to be cancelled and the entire 10.5 percent pay increase in year three had to be eliminated.

I was the only Councilmember who voted against that 2008 contract (as well as the two other County labor contracts that year, and the 2005 labor contract negotiated by then County Executive Douglas Duncan that provided full retirement benefits for firefighters who retire after only 20 years). I will vote against this contract as well, and will urge my Council colleagues to do the same, unless the Council reduces the pay increases to a sustainable level.

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MocoLoco February 18, 2013 at 09:02 pm
When he writes, "I was the only Councilmember who voted against that 2008 contract," the outcome of this vote is pretty clear, so why bother getting into a big discussion about it. Enjoy your pay-raise, county employees.
In the know February 18, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Andrews opposes everything when it comes to any pay and benefits for employees. The problem is no one on the council addresses the real budget issues in the county. The county throws away money on wasteful programs and initiatives daily. The county spends more money on giving away money and benefits to illegal aliens and criminals then they do in employee pay. The county has wasted hundreds of millions on on health and human resources department. Take the time to actually read the county budget and see where the money goes instead of blaming rank and file employees.
tanisha February 19, 2013 at 12:05 pm
@In the know I totally agree with you on the wasteful spending and all the money given in benefits to illegals. I still find the raises excessive. I work for a small business (I'm the bookkeeper). The people I work for have cut their salaries which were not outrageous in order to keep from laying off employees. The amount of the raises are excessive given the economy we are in. Most folks see it for what it is - sucking up prior to elections.
Bob Knoll February 19, 2013 at 01:19 pm
+1 tanisha. Not that it will do any good. If the County leadership was able to wrangle the budget back under control and prove to be good stewards of taxpayer money, then by all means give a raise. Until then, this is vote buying, pure and simple.
jnrentz1 February 19, 2013 at 02:00 pm
My COLA for this year is 1.7%.
What the County Executive suggests is almost double that. I sure would like what Mr. Leggett proposes. How is the figure of 3.25% determined?
jnrentz1 February 19, 2013 at 02:05 pm
tanisha:
Rare is the employer who would cut their own salary to keep on an employee(s). And, I otherwise agree with you, and "In the know." Maryland and Montgomery County are far too accommodating of a large group of people who should not be here in the first place.
art slesinger February 19, 2013 at 02:34 pm
Headed for a bankrupt county...I am sure the people who live in Nassau Cty outside NY did not think they would ever be bankrupt with all their wealth, but that is what excessive government accomplished, ditto for MoCo
Kim Cooke February 19, 2013 at 04:16 pm
While I strongly support pay raises, I am amazed by the rationale of this man who has gone on and on about budget issues and whose solution always seems to be tax increases.
MocoLoco February 19, 2013 at 04:41 pm
Let's not get too wrapped up in this. The increase will cost $40 over three years, or about $13.3 million per year. In a county with a budget of $4.5 billion. So, this amount that we are agonizing over is 0.3% of the budget. There are much bigger targets for reduction.
Henry Klein February 19, 2013 at 05:44 pm
The picture is very simple. Legget is the bag man for the unions. He takes it from the public, gives it out to the unions and then get his cut back with union donations and support. The is no "negotiatiing". Legget is playing the game with other peo[ple's money in order to get the kick-backs from the unions. Period!
art slesinger February 19, 2013 at 08:12 pm
That is the direct costs now, how about the increase in pensions over many years?
Robin Ficker February 19, 2013 at 08:23 pm
Why aren't Leggett and Andrews living up to their promise to sunset the 156% increase in the county residential energy tax they gave us in 2010 and which they promised to sunset in 2012. They are spending the money instead.
Jewel Barlow February 23, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Amen to Bob Knoll's comment.
Jewel Barlow February 23, 2013 at 12:12 pm
I agree with Henry Klein and with Robin Ficker's comment that follows as well. There should not be any public employee raises until the economy is healthy enough for unemployment to go below 6% for the entire state.
STEVEN YOUNG March 9, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Steve a Montgomery Employee. I had to go without a raise for four years while watching my taxes go up each year. Not only without a raise , I also had to pay more for my families health insurance. I LIKE TO KNOW HOW Mr. Andrews take a pay cut and less health insurance and hear what he has to say on that point. Has any of you sacrifice four years . I PRETTY SURE EVERYONE OF YOU GOT YOUR COLAS!!!!!!! REMEMBER COUNTY EMPLOYEES LIVE IN THE COUNTY TOO AND WE ARE PAYING FOR OUR SALARY OUT OF OUR TAXES. HOW MANY OF YOU IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN SAY THAT. IT FUNNY HOW THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE IS THE SCAPEGOAT WHILE EVERYONE ELSE DOESN'T HAVE TO SACRAFICE!!!!!!!
bill marshall March 15, 2013 at 08:18 pm
When employees actually leave instead of just bellyache then you know they need a raise.
None of them can get more in the private sector and they know it. If they want to quit go ahead there are probably 20 qualified people for every job waiting in the wings. If you want to do a real evaluation to test pay levels simply run ads for the jobs and examine the resumes. If you get no takers you are paying too low. If you get good resumes than you are either okay or too high. If they really want to increase efficency then install web cams so the taxpayers can see how much they strand around and complain.
Mo April 2, 2013 at 04:32 pm
Everything has gone up, but my paycheck. County employees have not received COLAs or increments in years. And with no pay increase, we have actually had decreases because of increased pay ratio for insurance, retirement, etc. Years ago, we voluntarily forfeited a contracted COLA because of budget issues. Don't forget that! And we were furloughed. There is a lot of waste in government. Take a look a the millions spent on Council and CE grants. These are non-profits who submit an application saying what they will do with the money. The County has not advertised for these services. Stop wasting all this money.
Michael Smith April 5, 2013 at 12:34 pm
Yes, because no private sector people have had to suffer in a down economy.
Are you serious? As a small business owner I've made less over the last four years than someone working at Mcdonalds would make. I don't have insurance, I don't have a pension, I don't have a safety net, all because of paying for YOUR salary. Government employees forget who their bosses REALLY are, they waste overtime pay, sit around on government time slacking off, and then enjoy the perks that don't exist in the private sector. Steven Young, very simply, WHAT is your pay? Because I guarantee you it's more than you would be making in the private sector for the same amount of work and the benefits would be worse. Remember who pays your salary and show some damn respect, you're not the only one that's had to suffer over the last four years. As a business owner I've taken less pay than my employees to avoid having to lay anyone off while my debt has mounted incredibly. Hell yesterday we found out we're paying an extra $1,000 to the state A MONTH for our $8,000 a month commercial real estate lease due to an appraisal that increased our taxes by $1,000! The state is taking an extra $12,000 a year from us as one independent small business when I'm taking less than $36,000 a year in living money. When the state is taking 33% of my income on top of what they already take, my sympathy for government people asking for huge pay raises goes down drastically.
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