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RedGate's Future Tops Council Agenda

A proposed lease of the golf course to Billy Casper Golf and several annexations are before the City Council on Monday night.

A golf course management company's proposal to lease from the city, a review of the city's finances and the annexation of the Burgundy Park Center highlight the agenda for the Rockville City Council's at .

City staff recommends that the council award a 10-year lease for RedGate to Bill Casper Golf of Vienna, Va. The city would have the option to extend the lease for four additional five-year periods.

If approved, BCG would take over management of the course by Jan. 1.

The lease would end a long and acrimonious debate over the future of RedGate, which included the city hiring the National Golf Foundation last year to conduct . The council .

The council also is scheduled to vote on annexing a portion of a lot at East Gude Drive and Southlawn Lane known as the Burgundy Park Center.

In July, the County Council approved a request by the city to annex the lot. Monday's agenda includes votes on resolutions to rezone and annex the property. If approved, the annexation would take effect Dec. 1.

The council also is scheduled to hear a revenue and expenditures report for the city's general and enterprise funds. The report covers the fourth quarter of fiscal 2011, which ended June 30.

The introduction of an ordinance to correct a typographical error in the city code regarding spousal contributions to candidates in city elections is also on the agenda. The typo became a source of controversy earlier this month when as they are written.

The meeting will be broadcast live on Rockville 11.

Jeff Hawkins October 18, 2011 at 02:32 PM
Sounds like a good solution to the Redgate situation.
Doug R October 18, 2011 at 04:34 PM
Jeff, it is a good solution. It was nice to see a 5-0 vote by the Council to wrap up the issue, despite Mayor Marcuccio's childish attempt to prevent Councilman Gajewski from speaking to the motion. The most worrisome thing about the lease is the fate of the current Redgate employees' jobs but I think that concern was voiced loud and clear to the staff.
Brigitta Mullican October 18, 2011 at 06:38 PM
There weren't many options available at this time so a compromise was necessary. As Mayor Marcuccio stated to me, "We at least we know that the golf course will remain for the next 10 years." Hope we can concentrate on important city issues.
Jim Coyle October 18, 2011 at 10:41 PM
Congrats to the City for getting the RedGate issue resolved for the foreseeable future. I was very impressed by the knowledge and frankness of the Bill Casper Golf representative. They will interview the staff and determine if they fit the plans going forward, That's all you can ask a contractor to do. It is also a good move by the City to use a lease arrangement rather than simply bring in new management. The staff would not fare well under that kind of arrangement.
Theresa Defino October 19, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Yes. Everyone else spoke as long as they wished. He had not. First the mayor tried to wrongly blame Councilmember Pierschala for the process taking as long as it did, and he reminded her that many months ago he wanted to go straight to the RFP process but the decision was made to have a study conducted first. Then the mayor called for a vote, even though she knew Mr. Gajewski was waiting to speak. He asked to speak, saying, "Madam Mayor, I haven't had a chance to speak." She said, "If you make it short." He challenged her, saying, "I will make it as long as it needs to be, Madam Mayor." She replied, "Oh, I don't think so." He said, "I am a member of this council and if you wish to cut me off that's the way it's going to be." She laughed rudely and shook her head, muttering "Oh, dear," while he attempted to continue. "It's been a very long process," he continued, "and I would like to speak to it." She interrupted again, grumbling, "There you go." Watch at 2 hrs 55 minutes into the meeting. Anyone who pretends that this mayor is civil needs to watch this meeting. She is petty and nasty to everyone except Councilmember Newton, and especially to her challenger. A city of this size with a mayor who behaves this way makes us a joke to the outside world.
Jeff Hawkins October 19, 2011 at 01:05 PM
Doug, Yes, it's nice to see a possible resolution the Redgate issue. Perhaps everyone can move on to other pressing matters now. One thing though, it seems like this could have been done long ago and it would have saved an awful lot of "bickering". As for the "war" going on between the Mayor and Mr. Gajewski, it's simply unfortunate. The Mayor was clearly wrong in the way she handled this, "childish" is the word that comes to mind. It WILL have an impact on the voters I believe. To be honest, Rockville needs a change at the top and I think Mr. Gajewski would be an excellent choice.
Jim Coyle October 19, 2011 at 01:55 PM
I was particularly disturbed by the attacks from the speakers during citizen forum. All of them had the opportunity to review this proposed contract and yet continued to attack the staff and Mr. Pierzchala and Mr. Gejewski for their dogged determination to have the City make ther right decison. What reasonbale citizen would argue fro continuing to spend $700K in deficit each year to keep the golf course open? Unfortunatley, Ms. Marcuccio responds only to the unofficial golf advisory committee headed by her former campaign manager, Joe Jordan. Is this leadership or an abdication of leadership? I would like to think her insults toward Mr. Gajewski are the result of the heat of the campaign but unfortunately, her behavior has consistently been questionable against him and others who don't agree with her usually wrong points of view.Man, do we need new leadereship in the Mayor's position!
Joseph Jordan October 19, 2011 at 03:26 PM
After a while it gets tiresome hearing from the johnny-come-latelys, jumping on the RedGate bandwagon. Where were you when RedGate became an issue 8 years ago? The only person, other than City staff, there from the beginning, is me. I believe had I not doggedly supported RedGate, it would not be here today. Why do you insist the Advisory Committee is "unofficial"? It's a sub-committee of the R&P Advisory Board, sanctioned by Burt Hall. What does it add to the discussion that I was Marcuccio's campaign manager? I was fighting for RedGate before she was on the Council! As for Gajewski and Pierzchala, on March 28 they voted against proceeding expediously with the RFP. Following that vote, Gajewski motioned for the golf course to be closed, effective April 18, and let it return to nature. He said that the City “would no longer pay staff”, and they could use the current year budget to “wind down”. Pierzchala seconded it and the two voted for it. In case you missed it, at Monday’s Council meeting Mr. Gajewski referred to “rumors spread about [his] wanting to close the golf course.” This is not a rumor, it’s a fact, and he would throw the entire staff under the bus. Then there’s the hypocrisy of Mr. Gajewski voting against doing an RFP before voting for the BCG proposal, but not until he tried to find three votes to defer it to the new council. When you don’t have all the facts, better to be quiet, but please, if you want to play hardball, bring it on.
Jeff Hawkins October 19, 2011 at 03:38 PM
Hey Joe, I think the bottom line here is that RedGate will still be available to everybody and that's a good thing. You did a good job of keeping it going and that's a good thing. SO that's two "good things"!!! :) All that other stuff is nothing more than politics............that's a "bad thing".......it's now history.
Joseph Jordan October 19, 2011 at 03:52 PM
Thanks Jeff. Yes, it is a good thing knowing RedGate will be here for years to come. I will also do everything I can to help make BCG successful in operating the course, and encourage all the RedGate players to do the same. BCG encourages players and non-players to help form advisory groups like the one RedGate has had for many, many years. That sends the right message to me. RedGate, as a City gem, has lost some of its luster, and I look forward to seeing BCG restore it to what it once was.
Jeff Hawkins October 19, 2011 at 03:57 PM
Joe, Thanks again for all your hard work, time, and effort. It is comforting to know it's going to be there. It's a good thing......
Piotr Gajewski October 19, 2011 at 04:17 PM
Mr. Jordan deserves great credit as a tireless advocate for the golf course. My only issue has always been the best way to preserve the green space at RedGate without the need for a massive subsidy. The City operating the golf course was not the answer. Until last Monday, Mayor Marcuccio opposed any notion of leasing RedGate without a citizen referendum. In her televised candidate statement taped just a few weeks ago she states: “I shall protect the remaining green space and prevent the City from selling or leasing any of our parkland without a citizen referendum.” I give the Mayor full credit for reversing herself on that pledge and voting for the Billy Casper Golf lease. The unanimous vote on this important issue is an outcome of a fine process and terrific work by the Rockville City staff. Kudos all around and a terrific result for the City!
Theresa Defino October 19, 2011 at 06:13 PM
Sorry, I'm not giving Joe credit for anything, except maybe harassing me and those who disagreed with his position that RedGate deserved massive city subsides. We fought for an end to the money pit and we got it. A bit of background: Wednesday, March 9, 2011 Rockville golf course supporter hindered debate Request for RedGate e-mails produces more than 6,000 results http://ww2.gazette.net/stories/03092011/aspenew214531_32538.php
Mark Parker October 19, 2011 at 06:35 PM
Miss Congeniality strikes again.
Theresa Defino October 19, 2011 at 06:48 PM
All of your comments on Patch are personal attacks against me. Mark Parker commented on: RedGate's Future Tops Council Agenda Miss Congeniality strikes again. 02:35 PM Mark Parker commented on: Council to Vote on Town Square Parking and Signs Didn't realize you were the Rockville Patch moderator. Sep 29 Mark Parker commented on: Anti-Abortion Demonstrators Greet Frost Students > Was this taken out of context, too? You are simply an angry, vicious woman. Aug 31 Mark Parker commented on: Anti-Abortion Demonstrators Greet Frost Students "I also give no credence to men in this debate " Incredible. This woman needs help. Aug 30
Theresa Defino October 19, 2011 at 06:48 PM
Sorry that I cite facts instead.
Jeff Hawkins October 19, 2011 at 07:01 PM
Piotr, It's very "big" of you to commend Joe for his contributions to keeping RedGate a "working" golf course. Kudos to you.....
Mark Parker October 19, 2011 at 07:02 PM
Nice work. I attempted to compile a list of all the personal attacks you've launched on this website, but there was a limit on the amount of text I could post, so I gave up. Try to lighten up and be a bit more civil moving forward. Thanks.
Theresa Defino October 19, 2011 at 07:12 PM
LOL. Nothing I said was uncivil. Please note that Joe challenged people to fight him or hush up. Quite civil. Read the link I posted. Then leave me alone. Thanks. I usually ignore you and will do so from now on.
Mark Parker October 19, 2011 at 07:48 PM
Whenever there is any contentious debate on this site, 9 times out of 10, you’re involved. You like to state opinion as fact, and you berate anyone who disagrees with you. The exchange with your neighbor recently is a perfect example. Your online persona seems to be that of a bully. So you might want to be bit more introspective and think about how others perceive you and that maybe it’s not always the other person’s fault. I’m just trying to help.
Theresa Defino October 19, 2011 at 10:12 PM
As you once said to me, who made the moderator of Patch? And did I seek your "help?" Why aren't you offering "help" to anyone else here whose opinions differ from yours? I'm fine. Thanks, tho. And the exchange with my "neighbor?" She apologized to me. I think you're engaged in major projection here. I also think you're beginning to sound like a cyberstalker. I ask you again to please leave me alone. I post with my real name. I don't know about you.
Mark Parker October 19, 2011 at 10:34 PM
So much for being introspective. If calling out bullies online makes me a cyberstalker, then I'm guilty as charged. I post under my real name. You called me last election cycle to ask for support for your candidate (I'm pretty sure it was you). I voted for the other candidate. Best of luck this election cycle.
Theresa Defino October 20, 2011 at 10:43 AM
Stalker for sure.
Mark Parker October 20, 2011 at 10:52 AM
I liked you better when you were ignoring me.
Theresa Defino October 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM
The very definition of a stalker.

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