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Speak Out: Are You For or Against ‘Obamacare’?

Hundreds protest both sides Tuesday outside the Supreme Court.

 
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Hundreds of protesters for and against “Obamacare” turned out in front of the Supreme Court Tuesday.
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Hundreds of people gathered outside the Supreme Court on Tuesday to protest for and against President Obama's health care reform. The high court is hearing arguments for the second of the three-day hearing.

The case, according to the Washington Post, largely rests on the constitutionality of a provision that originated deep in Republican circles.

"As Americans we all deserve affordable health care," said Allan Jordan, of Piscataway, N.J., outside the Supreme Court on Tuesday. "Health care is too high, and not everyone has the funds to pay for it. That's not right."

The justices started zeroing in on whether Congress had the power to require most people in the U.S. to buy medical insurance, according to Reuters. The wire service also reported a ruling in the case is expected in late June before the Democratic and Republican party presidential nominating conventions.

The law requires people to obtain health insurance by 2014 or pay a penalty, according to Reuters. The challengers, including 26 of the 50 states and a small-business trade group, contend Congress exceeded its authority to regulate commerce with that so-called individual mandate.

"It's crazy to think that the government can make you have health insurance," said Bob Dickerson of Oklahoma. "I don't like the sound of that at all."

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What are your views on "Obamacare"? Has Congress exceeded its authority? Or was reform necessary? Tell us in the comments.

erin bliss

2:51 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

FOR! The ones 'against' have no idea what they're talking about!

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Jeff Hawkins

3:04 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

AGAINST! The ones "for" have no idea what they're talking about!

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Doug in Rockville

8:28 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

This question/poll is kind of ridiculous. First of all, it uses the invented name "Obamacare" as if he actually wrote the whole thing, not Congress, even though his opinions may have influenced what was in the law. Second, the Affordable Care Act, as the actual legislation is known, is huge and complex. So, what part are you asking if people like?

Polling shows that when you ask people if they "like Obamacare" they tend to say no by a small majority. But when you ask about the individual tenets of this law they tend to overwhelmingly favor it.

As usual, people are pretty confused because this is a big and confusing law, something the opponents of it are using to their advantage, but to the detriment, I'm afraid, of the country.

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Pedsfs

8:10 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

We've needed some sort of healthcare system in the US for a long time. This is a good faith effort by Congress to accomplish that. The individual provisions have been used successfully in individual states and other countries. It's time to give this legislation a chance and fix any problems over time; not throw it out and continue on our 3rd world path.

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Piotr Gajewski

9:22 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Jeff,

Millions in America are uninsured. Do you see this as a problem, or do you feel we have the system in place for everyone who wants to be insured to get insurance so basically the Affordable Care Act is a solution to a problem that does not exist (or is already being addressed by other existing law)? (Just Askin’.)

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Jeff Hawkins

7:38 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Piotr,
I think we all know what the issues with Obamacare are, it's good things and bad things. There is nothing I can add or detract from on this subject, I think we have heard it all................hence why the Supreme Court will make the final decision.

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Piotr Gajewski

11:18 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Jeff,

Actually I would have to disagree with the statement that “we all know what the issues with Obamacare are.” From my experience (including some comments here) it appears just the opposite: that a lot of conclusions many have about the Affordable Care Act are based on misinformation (which squares with national polling showing that many oppose the Act while supporting its components).

Also, should the Supreme Court rule the “individual mandate” unconstitutional, this will not solve the problem of millions of uninsured. It’s then back to the drawing board on this, with perhaps the only real option being turning to a one payer system (like most of the industrialized world). (Personally, I think I prefer the hybrid model that is part of the ACA.)

Ken Sleeman

9:31 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

The Affordable Care Act is a small step in the right direction. Universal health care for all is the goal. People before profit!

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Brigitta Mullican

10:01 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

The health care reform is a real political debate. At the beginning of this Administration there were agreements by both parties but the door for discussion was closed because the goal was to pass the bill no matter what. How many people really knew what was in the over 2,000 pages? Now we can see the complexity and problem of the bill. The case is now at the highest level of review...the U.S. Supreme Court.
We know the system needs to change. How much force will there be, how much will it cost the Federal Government, States, the individual? The big concern is mostly about how health care will be paid. Health care worked before the bill was introduced. Let's deal with the agreements. It appears that uninsured people have been treated free in the past. For that coverage there might have been fewer paper work and no insurance involvement. Prisoners probably have better health care than the unemployed people.
Will there be enough doctors to treat all the people? There is no easy answer to this health care reform issue, but it certainly needs to be discussed to its fullest.

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Roald Schrack

11:07 am on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

The current situation is a disgrace. The Affordable Health Care Act is not prfect but it is the best that could be passed in the current political environment. Universal Single Payer Health care would be better but at this point the health insurance companies have enough power to prevent it.

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Ray Whalen

12:23 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

It seems the focus of most people in favor of the law focus on the good intentions and ignore the constitutional issues. No good idea should trump the constitution. If the government can force us to buy insurance than they can force us to do anything in the name of health. Maybe these good ideas should be accomplished in a manner that does not fundamentally change the peoples relationship with the government.

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Doug in Rockville

5:01 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

So Ray, should the state government be able to force motorists to buy insurance on a vehicle to ensure victims of traffic accidents' bills are covered? Not buying insurance does not have no impact on other people....it's not all about being "forced"....it's about how some people's irresponsible choices harm others...just a thought.

Piotr Gajewski

1:18 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Ray,

The present constitutional question is not whether the government can force us to pay for something (it already forces us to pay for Social Security and Medicare, for example – all constitutional); it is whether the government can force us to pay for something by engaging a private entity, because that constitutes “commerce.”

There is no constitutional question whatsoever should the health care act make use of the “single payer” option as many suggest, where the government will simply run healthcare.

The irony of the cases before the Supreme Court is that if the Court rules against the “individual mandate” it may actually ultimately push our government away from the current much more creative solution, which utilizes private insurers and much of what is good in the current market driven system, and toward the much criticized “European model” single payer option.

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Doug in Rockville

5:07 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

I think the idea of a non-profit, cost-controlled private market is worth exploring, personally. Some examples of very successful systems where this happens are in Japan and Switzerland....slightly different models, but both very successful, with each country getting better health care for more people than in the US, at a cost of only 8-9% GDP, as opposed to the 17% we spend. When I see people using the idea that health care is "17% of the economy, the government should leave it alone!" it drives me crazy, because people are forgetting that is a 17% COST to the nation, not an economic benefit.....If we spent only 8% of our GDP on health care, can you imagine the millions in private and government spending that could be freed up to invest in energy independence? Or education? Insurance companies are the problem. We need a non-profit system. I am not sure government single payer makes all the sense since there are very successful examples of private systems around the World that are cost-controlled and regulated that work very well. The problem in the US is the profit motive of greedy corporate people who are in the business of paying for health care without any investment or interest in delivering quality care, and incentive to make it more expensive....especially when the government is footing the bill...

John Naughton

6:19 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

We have a constitution that protects our freedoms by limiting what the federal government can do. As we see by Obama' HHS Mandate to force people to pay for abortion ( after lying that he would not) in his healthcare bill he thinks the federal government can do anything he wants. That is the action of a tyrannical dictator. He must be removed from office. After that the Congress can move to begin implementing helpful, constitutional health care.

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Piotr Gajewski

11:29 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012

John,

The constitution also protects the right to an abortion. Of course no one is forced to have an abortion, but like any other medical procedure, having it be covered by insurance for those who choose to have one makes good sense.

Thankfully Congress (not the President) beat back, by voting down the Blunt Amendment, the idea that employers might pick and choose what procedures they might want to exclude from medical coverage.

Also, you mention “helpful, constitutional health care.” What would that look like in your view, or perhaps: how would it differ from the current Affordable Care Act?

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